The LO Recruiting Wars

Lenders are throwing $$$ to woo LOs before interest rate cuts. But that money isnāt free.
About a year ago, a top LO in the Mountain West received a full offer from a mid-sized IMB out of the Pacific Northwest š². The offer came with a $50K signing bonus. He turned it down.
āEvery few months they come back with more money,ā he told The Scoop. āRight now it's $125K,ā and comes w/ a $15K monthly minimum comp for 3 months. Itās all based on his TTM of production and includes a 12-month clawback.
The PNW lender got his production volume wrong in the latest offer, he said. When he corrected them w/ the actual volume was $25M, āthey come back and are like, āOh, well in that case, hereās more money.āā
Mortgage lenders nationwide are waving huge signing bonuses in front of LOs, betting that theyāll make bank š¦ when interest rates drop š and refis go on a rampage.Ā
āArguably the most aggressive multiples on production we've seen since the free agent frenzy started in 2019,ā is how NFM Lendingās Greg Sher put it. āCertain lenders set the market & forced others to climb up in order to be competitive. We have seen some top producers who have already been through the cycle several times that know better. Because oftentimes, it's not what it appeared to be, & they ended up feeling trapped with no way out.ā
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Recruiting Wars (Cont.)
Itās not just $50M+ producers who are being pursued. Producers in the $8M-$20M range who are seen as having the potential to double volume somewhere else are getting courted, too. Even those LOs are commanding 70 bps or more on production.
To win the LO arms race, youāll need hefty reserves & a strong stomach. One regional manager said his shop recently lost a $16M producer in the 11th hour to CrossCountry, who offered them 110 bps. āThe LO had a start date with us in a week & said, 'I just can't do it. I literally gotta take the money,'ā the manager recalled. āIf you're going after somebody, hope to God a rival doesn't like them a whole lot because if you're up against a really aggressive company, you're going to get slaughtered."
A $10M- $20M producer whoās doing more than 25% govvie loans is āoutstanding for a companyā to have, one source said. āThe only high-stakes competitive loan that's cutthroat right now, that everybody's dropping their drawers over, is the conforming 30-year fixed over $300K because there's barely any margin in that,ā he added. āPeople are fighting to keep their pipeline & database so they've gotta go low, & that kills P&L model situations.ā
The signing bonus money isnāt free. LOs are increasingly having to sign longer contracts (up to 3Y) with clawbacks/pay it ups with higher rates. They are essentially golden handcuffs that the LO just slipped or are still wearing. So why do it again?Ā
"Loan officers are like rappers,ā said one broker-owner in Florida. āThey are bad with their own money & many don't understand how the industry works.ā
Larry Silver, who leads top staffing agency Mortgage Career Exchange, said LOs are more discerning this go-around. āIt really comes down to the individual,ā he said. āYou've got restless talentā¦āI took the bonus, I've done this rodeo š¤ before. Let me be diligent & thoughtful on how I make this next move.ā" Some are trying to get sliding scales & bonuses that are more a-la-carte š½ļø or even a higher salary in lieu of a signing bonus, he said.Ā
Sources IDād CrossCountry, loanDepot, Rate, NAF and Union as being especially active recruiters right now. The LO in the Mountain West has also received overtures from Rate. But he has other reasons for declining. āThere's another gal in town who works for them & Iām just not interested in being a co-worker with her."
The Greatest Voicemail in Mortgage History
If only I had the confidence of a Rick Ruby. The coaching legend was accused by CalCon of using his āneutralā coaching biz š to give CrossCountry a recruiting advantage. Check out this voicemail š²he left 1 LO, per court records.Ā
Scott ā Rick Ruby. That you are looking at all this shit without talking to me & I got to hear it from other people is ridiculous. God. If I haven't proven myself as the voice of reason all these years, that does the right thing, stays grounded, wants what's best for you.Ā
I care about nothing but what's best for you. I don't get any money from any companies. I don't care about where you work, but I'm telling you, when I make a lot of money, I want to protect the money as the main focus. So you're finally making big money. You probably made $7-10 million last year. You capitalized on the greatest year ever. I think you need to call me.Ā
We need to talk about this, & I'm going to tell your ass to stay where you are & stop looking at this kind of shit. Stop being creative & just be a guy that does a lot of loans & makes a lot of money. I'm a guy that does a lot of loans. I coach a lot of people. I make a lot of money. I save a lot of money. I give a lot of money to charity. I honor my wife. You got babies on the way. This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. You call me back ASAP. Stop talking to a bunch of idiots and talk to me. If I'm not the richest & smartest man you know, I don't know who is. I'm shocked your ass didn't call me. You call me back."Ā
Witness[Ruby]: Let me have that voicemail to put on my website. I'd get a lot of business out of that voicemail. Sounds like me. Sounds like what I would say. āStay where you are. That's how you make money. Don't move around. You're doing good. Don't sell no stocks. Don't change companies. You're doing well.ā Sounds like great advice." š§āš³š
Cabinet Fraud
Turns out mortgage fraud is a bipartisan issue? Bill Pulte & fellow Republicans have grilled š„© Lisa Cook, Adam Schiff & Tish James for allegedly committing mortgage fraud by fibbing about primary residences to obtain lower mortgage rates. ProPublica reports that several cabinet members in the Trump administration also have multiple homes with primary residences as well.
The officials include Labor Secretary Lori Chavez-DeRemer, who received two primary residence mortgages in quick succession in Arizona; Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy, who has primary residence mortgages in NJ & DC; and Lee Zeldin, the EPA administration who has primaries in Long Island and DC. The Scoop will have more on this on Monday.
Sweet Rate Relief
The August jobs report came in paper-soft, with just 22K jobs added & downward revisions from prior months nearly canceling out the gains.
āThat weakness, combined with the unemployment rate ticking up to its highest since COVID (though still historically low) strengthens the case for the Fed to cut later this month,ā Optimal Blueās Kevin Foley told The Scoop. āMarkets have now fully priced in a September rate cut of 25 bps, w/ a small but growing chance of a larger 50-bps move. The question has shifted from whether the Fed will cut to how far & how fast. Current CME FedWatch data points to 3 cuts before year-end. Two key metrics will shape that path: Core PCE inflation, which has held steady around 2.7% over the past year, & the unemployment rate, which is emerging as a better measure of labor market balance than monthly payroll numbers. Weāre already seeing rates respond. The 10-year Treasury has fallen to 4.08%, its lowest level this year outside of Aprilās tariff shocks, & Optimal Blueās Mortgage Market Indices show mortgage rates dipping to 6.37% intraday, the lowest in 2025 so far.ā
He added: āFor originators, thatās welcome relief heading into the fall market.ā
Quickies
Freddieās raising maximum LTVs/CLTVs to 95% for 2-4 unit primary residences effective Sept. 29. These are set at 85% for 2-unit properties & and 80% for 3-4 unit properties š. It applies to purchase & rate/term refis only. Manually underwritten & super conforming are excluded. Fannie made the exact same changes in ā23. Wonder what took Freddie 2Yā¦
Entering August, there were 1.6M mortgage holders in the money for a refi (could save at least 75 bps). Two-thirds of this cohort originated their loans in 2023 or later. Per ICE, servicer retention dipped from 25% in Q1 to 23% in Q2, driven by a disproportionate decline in retention among cashout refis. Retention among borrowers refinancing out of 2024 vintage loans came in at 43%, nearly 2x the market average.
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