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Fontainebleau is French 🇫🇷 for “It’s Fine I Guess”

CMBs go hard at MBA Annual ‘25

“It’s like a 3 minute drive but somehow a 24 minute walk,” grumbled 1 banker at the ride share lot at the Fontainebleau on Sunday night. He & two colleagues were on their way to the party at The Industry, undoubtedly the hottest 🌶 mortgage party of the half-dozen on Sunday night for MBA Annual. Hundreds packed the industrial space as club music played, women danced in glow-in-the-dark face paint, lasers blared & drink lines snaked 60 people deep. Vendors were very well represented & lenders were happy to talk roadmaps integrations & more.

If you were seeking a more subdued, nerdier 🤓 affair, the capital markets crew at MCT was an option at Zouk Nightclub. Meanwhile, in Downtown Vegas, the servicing peeps were at Cenlar’s party at the Mob Museum. They had a great jazz band 🎷.

Maybe you spotted Tammy Richards, who just left Kind Lending for NEXA & was holding court at upscale cocktail bar Bleau in Fountainebleau. Don’t be surprised if NEXA begins servicing their own loans in the near future. (Also on Richards’ flight from Orange County was Dom Marchetti & the two are not exactly BFFs, The Scoop heard.) 

This might be the last MBA show in Vegas for a while. Complaints about $9 water bottles🚰 & leggy walks aside, the Annual show is heading to Chicago next year, sources told The Scoop. MBA Secondary will be in NY🗽 next year but it will likely be moving to a new city afterward. (Not happy about that one as I live in Brooklyn.)

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The '26 Forecast

Survive ‘til 25. You’ll still take licks in ‘26? Attendees at MBA Annual are generally feeling pretty good ahead of ‘26. Not great, but pretty good. The consensus from the Fontainebleau is that the worst is behind us, AI has so many promising potential uses, regulatory burdens are easing, macro trends suggest more home sales & refis in the year ahead.

The MBA’s economists forecast origination volume to rise roughly 8% next year, but many of the lenders who spoke w/ The Scoop have rosier predictions. “We’re forecasting business to pick up by about 15%,” said an exec at a top-50 retail lender. 

Still, the MBA’s own forecast for ‘26 is down 10% from the trade group’s call back in October ‘24. Rates aren’t expected to really fall as many had initially anticipated, dampening the mood somewhat.

“It’s still a challenging environment for lenders,” Mike Fratantoni said. 

In terms of profitability, there’s also huge variability from lender to lender. Whereas the average IMB made a profit of 25 bps in Q2, the spread between the upper quartile & the lower quartile was 90 bps, according to the MBA’s Marina Walsh. IMBs continue to eat up market share & they’ve managed to close a much higher percentage of applications to closings.

FWIW, the MBA forecast is far cheerier than Gary Cohn & Larry Summers’ forecasts, who expect an uptick in rates…

Some Dispatches 🎲

  • A staple of MBA Annual is the GSE/FHFA updates. But the GSE/FHFA heads didn’t make any appearances whatsoever this year in Vegas. There is a government shutdown… but I hear Bill Pulte is still scheduled for an appearance at AIME FUSE later this week. He’s buddies w/ Mat Ishbia FWIW...

  • Normally Optimal Blue throws a banger of a party at MBA Annual. But not this year. Por que, OB?

  • The mortgage workforce has stabilized at around 266,000 jobs.

  • Sales-related expenses are 61% for the average IMB. How much more can lenders really cut from fulfillment/production support/corporate?

  • Recapture for servicers is at 20%. It should get better with trigger leads going away.

  • We’re down about 100 lenders from the good ‘ol days, & there’s likely more lender M&A to come.

  • The MBA suggested that they might be able to do away with the tri-merge credit model. I can’t imagine the bureaus won’t fight that tooth-and-nail.

  • The best visual at MBA was actually a middle-aged man’s chest. Weiner Brodsky & Kider's Bob Niemi got a wonderful CMB tattoo.

  • There is a small army of mortgage consultants right now. Lenders aren’t flush enough right now to compel them jump back to the W2, but once they are expect a big exodus…

  • Jay Promisco, formerly of Sierra Pacific, has landed a new gig, The Scoop hears…

  • My favorite swag? I have a baby & a toddler, so I’m going to go w/ the hand sanitizer from Mortgage Cadence. Another favorite from a reader: Snapdocs has dog water bottles.

  • I’m a big fan of the peacock-style jackets from the dudes at Kensie Mae 👇

Not quite Dan Flashes, but it’s a beauty.

Tech Happenings 👨‍💻

There were good vibes at the expo hall. Tech & marketing budgets are on the rise. Here’s a smattering of what The Scoop has heard. 

  • Depository banks are still very wary of AI in their tech stack. “We’ve had banks who say, ‘We love your product but we’ve got FDIC audits coming up, call us again in a year,’” said one solutions co. exec.

  • Encompass Web is improving, but there’s still quite a bit of work to be done, sources said. And one vendor opined about ICE requiring many months of integration work but a very expensive 🫰upfront payment. Mike Yu of Vesta was a busy bee at MBA Annual & sources said MeridianLink has picked up 45 clients this year…

  • For all the talk about AI (and let me tell you, the amount of talk is exhausting), most lenders simply aren’t ready. “It’s really about the data architecture. If you don’t have your data totally organized and ready, there’s just no reason,” said one tech pro. 

  • Lenders have been burned by multi-year deals. Lo & behold, the market is responding. There’s a growing number of vendors who are offering shorter-term deals.

  • There will be a vendor shakeout. How big? That’s a matter of debate. But every vendor said the ecosystem is still too large to support everyone & plenty of similarly-sized vendors will probably join forces. In terms of buyers, BeSmartee is on the hunt, as is Constellation. There’s quite a bit of private equity money out there too.

The Replacement Workforce

AMC/valuation tech firm Reggora this week debuted its 24-hour appraisal program, which leans heavily on hybrid appraisals. The data collection component is designed to be done by non-appraisers (typically real estate agents) & the appraiser chills at home & goes through the data to create an appraisal report. It's very controversial. Just take a look at Reggora founder Brian Zitin's LinkedIn feed

Appraisers are concerned that the avg per fee report is going to go down significantly but more existentially, that all these new workflows are killing what’s left of the profession. Zitin argues that the appraiser workforce is already shrinking in number & this will help them financially.

“Would you rather do 2-3 appraisal reports per day and make $600-$900 from the comfort of your home or one report per day while driving around for $500?” he asked one skeptic. The question really is if Reggora can deliver the volume to the appraisers. Do lenders really care that much about a 24-hour turn time to opt for Reggora over other AMCs? We’re going to find out!

It’s important to note that appraisers have data collection concerns w/ Reggora’s program (which fully complies with GSE guidelines). Will the average real estate agent do a good job with the forms? Judging purely by the absurd number of data errors, misspellings & typos I saw on the MLS when I bought a home in 2021, I wouldn’t bet on it…

Rocket Layoffs 🚀

As The Scoop first reported on Sunday, Rocket laid off a couple hundred workers on Friday. The lender says it’s less than 1% of the workforce. This was always expected. Rocket announced $500M in “synergies” in March in anticipation of the Mr. Cooper deal closing. They’ve offered a very generous severance package—12 weeks plus a week per year worked, plus up to a year in health benefits. IMO the real question is how many more layoffs will follow. The deal ended up being much more expensive than Rocket initially expected…

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